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« on: November 04, 2008, 11:22:49 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2008, 12:35:16 AM »

yay now we can change the world  Grin
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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2008, 05:49:05 AM »

yay now we can change the world  Grin

 

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I want my redistribution now.
He can start by giving me half of whatever Henry Paulson earns. LOL

Well, at least  maybe now we can get some relief from the incessant whining of the left as they can now revel in the erosion of rights once provided under the Constitution.
I wonder how long it will take for the fifth column to finish the job and finally dissolve the constitution and be absorbed into the UN?
I give it 7 years.
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2008, 06:20:20 AM »

7 years until we start using the Euro, too?
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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2008, 11:41:15 AM »

Did you have to remind me?

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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2008, 05:47:09 PM »

I was pleased Obama got elected, as he seems to be a decent sort of bloke. I was sick and tired of defending the USA, as I have had to do so too many times since moving to Australia. Yesterday, many Aussies held election parties and watched the whole thing on TV for the whole day, including me. Many Aussies cheered when Obama won and said they felt hopeful about the USA now. And it was great that the news caused the exchange rate to rise, meaning my Aussie dollar increased in real value.
And please remember you might not agree with everything Obama does, but then as far as I can tell, no one in the world (or their right mind) agreed with anything Bush did. War is pointless and as history shows - wars never achieve anything longterm. As for the economy - those Wall Street guys and bankers need to be brought to account NOW. Aussiegirl has spoken!!
 Congratulations to President Obama, and best wishes to all Americans for a more prosperous future in a world that will once again love and respect the USA. (Those people who booed during McCain's speech when he mentioned Obama's name were closed-minded hillbillies. (Which is a class considerably lower than rednecks.)
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« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2008, 10:20:25 PM »

If only racism would end.
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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2008, 06:02:52 AM »

Well Janna, racism has ended or at least turned the corner where those that remain racist are powerless to influence the masses. The election of Obama has relegated the racist to the status of relic from a day long gone.
This is a wonderful thing. All men are indeed created equal. Some just think "Bling" is silly just like some think riding around in pick-up trucks with shotguns in the window rack is Neanderthalish.
It just takes time for cultural lag and social change to evolve.
Racism was shot to death in the 1960s, it just takes several generations to bleed out. That is the way of cultures.
Everyone was in a frantic state of agitation to speed up the process but it just takes time and persistence by keeping the goal in sight.  America voting in a black president was an inevitability. Just glad I lived to see it.
I am unhappy about the political philosophy of the one elected though.
Which brings me round to Aussiegirl.
Darlin, you lived with me for 20 years and I reckon you observed that damn little gets by me if I'm looking.
Obama is a socialist, pure and simple. That might not even be a bad thing except it flies right in the teeth of the form of government this country was founded on.  And we have had our bouts with socialistic experimentation in the past that created a legion of baby-making -machines fueled by a welfare state unmatched anywhere else in history. It allowed, even encouraged urban young women to make babies continually so they could stay on the welfare train. It never allowed them to rise out of the ghetto. It didn't force these women (and men,) to zip up their pants and make something great out of their lives. Welfare is never enough to rise out of poverty and it is designed to keep the poor, poor and thus controllable by the state.  And of course that just creates tension because poor working schleps have to foot the bill for all the unproductive dead weight, freeloaders in the society.
This alone continues and promotes the continuance of racism as the bulk of welfare mothers in the past has been strongest in the black community. So, socialism by its very results is destructive as hell to the black man in overcoming racial stigma.
Yet Obama pushes toward more socialism in a country where the values are primarily capitalistic.  These two concepts cannot co-exist for very long. He's a smart guy so must know this. So that tells me one thing, one all revealing intention and that is it is his goal to socialize America right along with the plan that the world bank concocted in 1946. The New World Order. It's no secret. His values, his statements and actions fall right in line with One World doctrine. The plan has been all along to absorb those pesky Americans into the UN under the control of the World Bank controlled by one totalitarian, corporate governorship. And forget not, one world economy. It's gotten so big and so obvious that they can't even hide their intentions anymore. 9-11 had little to do with Jihad and everything to do with bringing down Wall Street. Bin Laden was just the hired mercenary to do the Euro Banks dirty work, which he did gladly.  Follow the money trail after 9-11 and you will wind up in Hamburg and one of the key viper's nests of the World Bank connection.
But that is a bit off the point other than Obama, to my understanding, has deep links into the World Bank and will no doubt appoint a new president to the head of the World Bank once in office. That is a Presidential duty. What scares me, is he's likely to elect someone less resistive to the socialistic machine and we'll take giant steps foreword to becoming a socialist state and succumbing to a one world economy. Oh, it's definitely going to happen, the socialist's fifth column is entrenched in this government, I'd just rather see it happen later than sooner.
I am, I guess, a constitutionalist. Certainly a dying breed if not dead already. I believe in a government of the people, by the people and for the people, not for the greater good of the corporate machine. I think some very good people have lived and died to give me the right to that form of government and feel no uncertain rage at those that would destroy that dream. It's not some antiquated romantic fantasy of a bygone era, it is decency and honor that I feel for those that sacrificed so much for an ideal.
As for Obama, he is a puppet just like Bush, just like Clinton and so many before them. None but Regan seem to have been able to think out of the box and even Regan had his masters.
Obama, I am sure thinks he is doing the right thing, but I wonder how right he would feel if he felt the hot wind of a cannon ball, saw the heaps of dead comrades muddied and frozen blue in the bloodied snow of Valley Forge? I wonder about this. He might not be so fast to “change.”  He might see socialism as nothing more than a mutation of a monarchy into a seven-headed beast called a mega corporation.
He might just pick up his musket and aim at those heads.
I am glad he offers the rest of the world a more affable, tolerant face that gleams with the promise of hope. God knows we sure have lost face with the other nations of the world.
But I personally think the reason we lost face is because we did have a government, bold, dynamic and caring and we were a great people of high moral and ethical standards. We were the bar setters, we were the ideal culture, yet diversified cultures bound by a common thread that was uniquely American. It was a land of promise. But we have fallen from that grace. We accepted change and allowed Marxist ideas to contaminate the mainstream because we do defend the right to freedom of speech. We let the Marxist psychiatrist from Austria infiltrate and subsequently command our schools, our media and our government and poison our culture with values like, “There is no wrong or right, just what is relative to you.”  We let them pour mind numbing drugs down our gullets, justified by some falsely invented mental illness to the point where few of us can think for ourselves anymore and it’s easier just to follow the herd.
We let these godless serpents in with open arms because we are America.
Few things actually happen by chance in the world of man. Most is by design and there are just some powers in the world that cannot tolerate an America.
It is our submission to those powers that the world sees and they lament we should fall so far. The light of eternal promise has finally dimmed.
And for allowing this, the world has no forgiveness.
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« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2008, 11:04:56 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2008, 06:32:46 PM »

Well Hitspinner - you make a very good point,  regretably. I guess the main thing that attracted me to Obama was that he is anti-war. Wars are about the dumbest things and never achieve anything. I saw McCain as supporting war (Pailin did too.) So that leaves ? Maybe you should run the country a or me or Mashby - except that he would pass legislation to free beer (I didn't know it was enslaved.)
I figure I'll just keep on helping others and getting others to help others and educate and enlighten them and at some point the world will be a better place. if you can't be an optimist then happiness might seem a long way off or unachievable. Yet happiness awits all those who set goals and achieve them, now matter how slight the goal.
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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2008, 12:32:22 PM »

Well Hitspinner - you make a very good point,  regretably. I guess the main thing that attracted me to Obama was that he is anti-war. Wars are about the dumbest things and never achieve anything. I saw McCain as supporting war (Pailin did too.) So that leaves ? Maybe you should run the country a or me or Mashby - except that he would pass legislation to free beer (I didn't know it was enslaved.)
I figure I'll just keep on helping others and getting others to help others and educate and enlighten them and at some point the world will be a better place. if you can't be an optimist then happiness might seem a long way off or unachievable. Yet happiness awits all those who set goals and achieve them, now matter how slight the goal.


Very well said.
I am not too sure McCain is all that pro war, actually. Maybe he is, I really don't know what is in his heart. But I do think he is experienced  enough to be a pragmatist to a large degree and would have ended the war faster than  he was letting on. But he would have done some sort of slam dunk, something big and final. I don't mean nukes but more special ops, cut loose to go into Pakistan untethered. I also think he would have restructured the CIA.
Obama, who knows? He has zero experience.
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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2009, 02:53:43 PM »

Over here, the people were delighted when Barack Obama was elected. There was a deep distrust of the Bush administration. Over a million people marched against the War in Iraq. The feeling was that there were other regimes just as bad as Iraq. Was it the oil America was after people wanted to know.

I have heard it said many times that wicked regimes such as the one run by Robert Mugabe in Zimbabwe were just as bad. Rwanda was dreadful, adults and children were getting their limbs cut off. No help was forthcoming then.

A man who had worked in Saudi Arabia for many years told me democracy would not work in Iraq because they had been used to being told what to do for thousands of years. Thousands of insurgents came out of the woodwork, there have been many suicide bombers. It seems to me that many thousands of people have been killed. I doubt very much if anything like that number would have died if Iraq had been left in peace.

Wars always mean catastrophe, nobody wins. World War I should never have happened. It was the reparations after that allowed Hitler to flourish and led to WW II. We didn't have much choice where Hitler and Japan were concerned. I think Vietnam was a big mistake. So many American lives lost for nothing.

The sooner the soldiers leave Iraq the better. Afghanistan is a different matter as that is where Bin Laden operated from. No doubt they still train suicide bombers. I don't enough about Gutanemo Bay to comment, except to say I hope the boat sinks if they removed. I hate all fundamentalists.


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